Competitor's Tally

18th Dec 2005 stk

Competing In the Same Space?

Ben Lupton ... owner of Lightality

Claim: "Bringing a Rich Experience to Blogging"

Goal: To try and make skinning just as easy and feature packed as creating a post. This will be achieved by attempting to design a "CMS for skinning" by including a "Lightality" tag inside the blog properties. (I think he means 'tab' ... but who's quibbling with the master?) The tab will include the following sections: About, General, Settings and Look-and-Feel - which, in turn, will include: Color Themes, Layouts, Posts & panels.

When: Christmas Eve ... because "I'm heading for a month-long holiday to Europe" (Watch out there Yabba ;) )

Claims to have the Lightality Skin released on Oct. 24th, 2005, but waiting for Christmas release so can work on 'problems' and CMS. A preview of the CMS can be found here.

1) (4/3/2 Columns) - only seen pics of 3 and his site is 2.

2) (Show/Hide, Add/Remove, Drag/Re-Order Panels) - 1 & 3 yes, 2 yields scads of dotted boxes.

3) (Blog, Category and Author Avatars) - Seen 1 & 3 ... not 2

4) (Customizable BGs/Layouts/PostSkins/Styles/Themes) - unknown

Some untold stats:

• He claims on the Oct 24th that his site works in IE 6, but not for me.

geekOkay ... here is a test of the STK pop-up system. This is only a test. For the next 60 seconds ... or however long it takes for you to read the contents of this box ... or however long you keep your mouse hovered over the box (and don't read a thing) ... this box will remain open, revealing detail not included in the original document.

The content is set to "pop", when you hover yer mouse over the little icon. There are currently 4 icons, each with a differently styled background and such: hint warning info geek

I also wanted to find one for "extra geeky detail", but haven't settled on a graphic yet. Where are the smilie faces?

Okay ... stk out!

• He has a trackback icon, but no trackback address (or permalink address for that matter) shows on individual posts. When you click the trackback link ... it indicates you need to log in to leave a message.

• The email icon, when clicked ... opens up an email client (security breach?) dunno ... no "To:" addy is filled out ;)

• Commentors won't be happy tho. Although you must be a registered user to MAKE A comment, any idiot can right click and view source to get the email address of every commentor. :p

• Ergometrics suck. Can't determine number of comments (total doesn't show till you actually VIEW comments). Can't link any articles via a permalink b/c none is displayed (and prolly wouldn't work anyway b/c of the weird js interface). New time visitors will have fun figuring out how to READ the flippin article to begin with ... and of course, as previously explained ... those with IE6, despite his claims, won't get to even if they DO figure out the one, b/c of javascript errors.

Speaking of errors ... and i'm only hashing this again because I want to document the numbers: (XHTML) - FAILS on 'transitional' and what's worse ... no character encoding is defined ... 182 XHTML errors. (CSS) - Irrelevant, b/c XHTML is so badly screwed up.

Two more things: (1) TABLES layout? Gimme a break (2) Got JS turned off? Site is little more than a JPG image. :o

OKAY ... This guy scares me. Not just b/c of what he's like on the boards, but b/c i think his idea is really GREAT ... just his execution sucks (and of course, he has no real clue). What do you think of an idea like he's describing, where one can basically build an object-oriented skin from a back office tab? The big problem that i see with it: to allow the kind of flexibility that would suit 80% of people's personal wants/desires/needs ... the interface would be too cumbersome for the average joe. But still ... esp if color and images could be customized ... it would seem you could hit 50% of ppls needs and still have a lightweight, user-friendly interface.

OKAY ... enough on this. I gotta de-blubbertise myself for a while ... i feel yucky all over

 
 
 
 

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Anonymous
19th Dec 2005

It's a shame I never kept a copy of my ancient 9.0.summat version, if you remember it had two new tabs on the blogs tab in the BO, one for layout and one for theme. At the time, I abandoned it because it meant I had to convert all of the sidebar stuff into customiseable modules, of course in Phoenix these are now the plugins.

I also started to recreate the same system as a plugin for Phoenix, if you look in the archives of my dev blog, you'll see me rabbiting about a skin/system called simplicity. Now that Phoenix has pretty much hit beta and the code is "fairly" stable I'll probably ressurect it and expand it into a full skinning system..... after I've got all the other plugins ported across and tested ;)

Just to touch upon the subject of blubber, his attitudes and methods, when it comes to coding, are rife amongst amateur coders ... usually the sort that call themselves "webmaster", they get on the big wide web and it's full of bells and whistles and new toys and they just want to have them all. So, they produce a website made of tables (when it'd be far easier and bandwidth friendly to use divs), they have flash buttons (to achieve a rollover effect that could be achieved with css), they use javascript effects (quite a few of which can be reproduced with just css) and usually their site only works in IE6 (although a few hours with a validator could cure most of that). They also tend to produce fixed width sites, because they're easier.

Ok, I might sound like a bitch, but let me tell you why I find all of the above appalling.

One of the main aspects of the web is the WW bit, it stands for "Word Wide" (yeah, yeah, I know you know). What that actually means is, it's available to anyone and everyone in the world (allow me a rose tinted glasses moment) and is controlled and owned by nobody. This means that even a blind man in outer mongolia has the right to expect to browse the internet as freely and easily as anybody else (this is what WAI/508 is all about) ...... lets follow him as he hits a "webmasters" site using a text reader :-

  1. Every bit of javascript on the page fails, so, there go all the special effects, but, more importantly, there goes all of the content that they controlled.
  2. Every bit of flash fails, so there goes all the site navigation, now we're limited to just one page .... and half of that dissapeared with the javascript failing :|
  3. All of the nested tables used make the poor text reader work like a demon trying to understand what follows what, now all of the remaining content is starting to sound jibberish, and you can't navigate to another page because the navigation failed with the flash.

So, until the web has a damn sight less "webmasters" and more coders who actually give a shit about the visitor being able to browse through their site no matter what their abilities or needs, I'm afraid it's been reduced to just plain "Web". Of course, the "webmaster" couldn't care less, his stats show that 98% of his visitors are using IE6 with javascript enabled and flash installed ....... they never think to ask "why ?".

I say all this from experience, my first website was a pure javascript controlled monstrosity that only worked in IE (mind you my stats showed me that all my visitors used IE with js enabled :| ), and even when I converted it to be cross-browser compliant it still requires javascript !! As you know it's since then gone into recoding, and the next version only uses javascript to enhance a visit, if it's enabled, and to still be fully functional with as many bells and whistles as possible, even in a text reader ...... once I finish the galleries :p

So, if you're a webmaster and you happen to be reading this, here's what I recomend you should do :-

  1. Your website should work with css, flash, javascript turned off
  2. Your website should not make use of excessive tables for layouts
  3. Your website should validate for both (x)html and css, and, ideally, WAI/508 (this now becoming a legal requirement in several countries, especially for any websites that have anything to do with the government).
  4. Your website should work in all major browsers.
  5. Your website should work at all screen resolutions.

Of course, you don't have to listen to anything that we've said in this post and my reply, you have the right to close your browser and carry on being a webmaster ..... just don't be suprised when I visit your site and I close my browser because I'm using FireFox with flash disabled (and frequently with javascript disabled) and I browse at 1280 x 1024 ...... but your stats will still show you that 98% of your visitors use IE6 with javascript enabled and flash installed, so that's not a problem right?

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